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To the team I was on on Sunday, and to any others who might find interesting this information that is kinda/sorta relevant to Ultimate (and to those who don't, apologies for this random message):
As per our discussion on how
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To the team I was on on Sunday, and to any others who might find interesting this information that is kinda/sorta relevant to Ultimate (and to those who don't, apologies for this random message):
As per our discussion on how "poach" can mean "to hunt illegally," "to cook in a simmering liquid," and "when a defender moves away from the marker so as to intercept a pass" - specifically, how can one use "poach" to describe eggs AND illegal hunting? (yep, this is what we were talking about during a game)
The connection between the usage of "poach" as in illegal hunting and as a strategy in Ultimate is easy to make (the idea of encroaching/usurping/stealing)..but how does this relate to cooking? According to the etymology, "poach" derives from Old French pocher - to place in a pocket/enclose in a bag, or to thrust or dig out with the fingers, to plunder.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/poach
[from Old French pocher, of Germanic origin; compare Middle Dutch poken to prod
[from Old French pochier to enclose in a bag (as the yolks are enclosed by the whites
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/poach
[F. pocher to place in a pocket, to poach eggs (the yolk of the egg being as it were pouched in the white), from poche pocket, pouch. See {Pouch}, v. & n.]
[Cf. OF. pocher to thrust or dig out with the fingers, to bruise (the eyes), F. pouce thumb, L. pollex,
and also E. poach to cook eggs, to plunder, and poke to thrust against.]
Apple dictionary:
ORIGIN late Middle English : from Old French pochier, earlier in the sense ‘enclose in a bag,’ from poche ‘bag, pocket.’
ORIGIN early 16th cent. (in the sense [push roughly together] ): apparently related to poke 1 ; sense 1 is perhaps partly from French pocher ‘enclose in a bag’ (see poach 1 ).
Basically, poached eggs are poached because they look like they're in a bag or pocket ("poche" in French). But pocher (pochier?) also means to thrust/poke/plunder (like in illegal hunting, which is also probably where the denotation for poaching in Ultimate came from). Or maybe because people carried out their illegally hunted game in bags? Probably more the former..
Also, you can poach not just eggs but other food, because it just means to cook in simmering water. And poaching can also be used when speaking of snowboarding and tennis (and probably anything where you can be sneaky).
I no longer remember who exactly was on my team, so you all get to benefit from this really important information that has now made your life complete - you're welcome.
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